Hmm. Well, a 1R Landis weighs about 3500-4,000 lbs. Cincinnati of the same type is about the same. gbent, I like the overhand infeed ! different strokes Only info we have is "the best" but if it's not production, same part hour after hour, a Brown & Sharp 13 is a very versatile, would be useful for a lot of other things besides just cylindrical …